Friday, September 07, 2007

More on Sabbath


Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree.

11:29 AM, September 07, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it is God. trust, faith, rest in God. God has given this to us.

11:31 AM, September 07, 2007  
Blogger Milton Stanley said...

Amen, Nancy. One of the hazards of working in full-time ministry is seeing Christ more as a source of work than a source of rest. The difference matters.

1:12 PM, September 07, 2007  
Blogger Vicki said...

Thanks, Milton. Blessings on your weekend.

10:54 PM, September 07, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have some questions...maybe you could take a stab at these...

was ministry meant to be a source of work? does one have to study at a school to become a minister, can one be called by God and do so without a degree or a paying job or that backing of a particular church...but, rather, backed by faith in God? would the world accept this person as a minister?

11:16 AM, September 09, 2007  
Blogger Milton Stanley said...

You're welcome, Vicki. Thanks for the good wishes and the fine post.

7:09 AM, September 10, 2007  
Blogger Milton Stanley said...

Good questions, Nancy. OK, I'll take a shot.

Was ministry meant to be a source of work? If you mean should it be work as opposed to merely pleasure-absolutely. We should labor for the Lord, not from a sense of working for our salvation, but in working out our salvation.

If you mean should ministry be an occupation-the the answer is yes again. I struggled with this question for years, until the words of 1 Cor 9:13-14 finally sank in. For certain reasons Paul chose at times not to receive money for his preaching, but Jesus himself said "that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel."

Does one have to study at a school to become a minister?
Not to be cute, but every church member ought to be a minister for Christ. The job of Christian leaders (full-time ministers or elders) is to equip the saints to do the work of the church. As for full-time, "vocational" ministers, formal education certainly helps, but it's not necessary. In my experience, men who go into vocational ministry without formal education for the job usually come to the point where they see the need for some kind of additional training. Personally, I have benefited much more than I expected from formal, school-and-book education. But I've benefited at least as much from being mentored by older, more experienced preachers. God has blessed me with two strong mentors during my time in preaching ministry. I wish every preacher could have that kind of strong mentoring.

As for being a minister without the backing of a church--I'm not sure how to answer this one. Every Christian is a minister of Christ, but I don't know how we could be a minister without being actively part of a congregation of the Lord's church. So no, unless we're physically unable to meet with other Christians, I don't think we can be ministers without being part of a congregation.

On the other hand, if we're active in the church we can by all means be ministers without working in a formal church program or without a formal church title. Opportunities for ministry in the wider world are practically unlimited.

As for whether or not the world would accept that person as a minister--why does it matter? The world at large is under the dominion of Satan (Jn. 12:31; 14:30; 16:11; Eph. 2:1-2). The more that the world recognizes us as true ministers for Christ, the more the world will oppose us. Isn't it better to work under the radar as long as we can. If the world recognizes our titles as minsters and doesn't oppose us, then maybe we're not ministering like we should. As Bill Loader has said, the church is not on earth "to play chaplain to established order." We're here to proclaim God's wisdom to the world, and to rulers and authorities in heavenly places (Eph. 3:10).

Nancy, I hope I've come close to the issues you're wondering about. If not, I'll try to do better in the future. Peace.

7:33 AM, September 10, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i just finished reading the answers that you gave to my questions. i am going to copy them and take some time to go over them. thank you very much for the time and effort put into doing this for me.

2:45 PM, September 10, 2007  
Blogger Milton Stanley said...

You're welcome. I don't know how on-target my answers were. Please let me know if you'd like to discuss these issues further. Peace.

5:54 PM, September 10, 2007  

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